Chris Grier Is On The Hotseat Already?
12-03-2019, 06:11 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2019, 06:13 PM by kingdolfan3.)
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I thought the Head Coach and on occasion the Owner(Especially In Dallas) influences who gets picked in the early rounds?

Kelly: Chris Grier’s draft misses holding back this Dolphins roster. Can he be trusted with Miami’s rebuild? |
By Omar Kelly
South Florida Sun Sentinel |
Dec 03, 2019 | 3:32 PM | DAVIE
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-kelly-column-tues-20191203-vfe7hnvntbclzinwx7lb56pfqa-story.html

I like Chris Grier and respect the Miami Dolphins’ top executive, and everyone should too because he’s the type of co-worker you want to work with, the boss you want to work for.

He’s a hard worker, a survivor in a sport that eats ego-less men like him alive.

But many have overlooked one very important aspect of Grier’s rise to power, which began in this organization in 2006, and it’s that he has a been part this poorly run franchise, which has committed misstep after misstep in their decision-making process, for two decades.

We’re talking 20 years or mediocrity, 20 years of bad hires, and horrible decisions, which led to the scorched-earth cleanse we saw this past offseason.

The problem with this rebuild is the fact that Grier has been a part of assembling what has been torn down, and I’m not sure if the man making all the final decisions with this $100 million in cap space, and bounty of 14 NFL draft picks has learned from the organization’s many mistakes.

“Give him the benefit of doubt,” some Dolphins insiders say.

“Maybe he was the lone voice of reason,” they said, explaining why owner Steve Ross gave Grier final say on the football side of the organization when he fired Mike Tannenbaum last January.

That would be putting a lot of faith in an executive who traded a 2019 second-round pick and a 2020 fifth-round selection to the Arizona Cardinals during this year’s draft to acquire second-year quarterback Josh Rosen, despite having a full season of film to properly assess how slowly he reads defense.

Grier’s the same decision-maker who selected an Alabama second-string tailback in Kenyan Drake in the third round of the 2016 draft, and then traded up to get back into the third round to draft receiver Leonte Carroo, who is now out of football.

Two drafts later, Grier selected Kalen Ballage, whose 1.8 yards per carry average this year has him on pace to have one of the worst seasons for a running back in NFL history.

Those are Grier’s picks at running back. He’s the first to admit he’s made all of Miami’s draft decisions since 2016, when he was named the general manager. Therefore, he’s part of the reason this year’s Dolphins team is on pace to set a new franchise low in rushing yards.

The Dolphins lack pass rusher, and edge setters this season despite Miami’s use of a 2017 first-round pick on Charles Harris, who can officially be put into the bust category now based on his three seasons of limited production (3.5 sacks).

Harris, who has settled in as a backup, is playing behind linebacker Vince Biegel, was a Grier pick.

These kinds of draft misses, poor decisions like taking tight end Mike Gesicki over Dallas Goedart, and then doubling down with another tight end in Durham Smythe in the same draft to handle the blocking role you know Gesicki couldn’t do, are unacceptable.

Grier’s four-year bounty of selections have produced very little benefit to this team with the exception of Xavien Howard, a 2016 second-round pick who has proven he’s an elite cornerback.

Laremy Tunsil, Minkah Fitzpatrick and Drake have all been traded away.

Carroo, Jordan Lucas, Brandon Doughty, Thomas Duarte, Isaac Asiata, Vincent Taylor, Cornell Armstrong, Quentin Poling are all gone.

That’s 11 players Grier selected in a three-year span who were either moved for a future asset, didn’t fit what these current coaches want, or weren’t talented enough to play in the NFL.

That’s 11 of 23 draft picks gone,
failure on nearly half the players selected over the course of three years.

And we’re not enough mentioning the disappointments like Ballage, Cordrea Tankersley, Isaiah Ford and Smythe, who would all likely struggle to find work if released by Miami.

At this rate we can safely expect half Miami’s 2020 draft picks to turn out to be failures, and that’s troubling.

Grier needs to do better going forward for this franchise to turn things around.

Grier deserves this opportunity, and he’s assembled what many feel is a phenomenal staff of lieutenants in Marvin Allen, who is one of the NFL’s most respected college evaluators, and Reggie McKenzie, who was named the 2016 NFL Executive of the Year for building that Oakland Raiders team.

There’s no doubt he’ll listen to their insight because that’s who he is. But when it comes down to it, Grier’s the man responsible for building up this roster in free agency and the draft, and hopefully he’s as good at doing that as he was at stripping it down.
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12-03-2019, 06:14 PM,
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Lol man if Ross fires this whole coaching staff and Grier after this im going to be shocked! Not a good look either imo......besides, ive bought into Flores, the man has us in games and even winning games with this make shift shit roster
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12-03-2019, 07:23 PM,
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Dumb article, typical Omar trying drum shit up for no reason.
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12-03-2019, 09:46 PM,
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Omar is catching a lot of hell on twitter frim all the fin hate hes spewing. Check it out if u got the time.
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12-03-2019, 10:03 PM,
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I read that Tannebaum was responsible for some of this carnage. Has Grier had the final say since 2016? I don`t trust everything Omar writes.
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12-03-2019, 11:48 PM,
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For real, tell me who can separate Tannenbaum from Grier these last three years. He acts like Grier is the person deciding each pick for the last 3 years.

Read between the lines. Omar Kelly is trying to get a head start on the Grier bashing in case he's right. If Grier sucks, he's ahead of the curve. If Grier is great, he'll jump on his dick and 95% of the fan base won't remember.

The problem is he doesn't have any examples of his point, it's just throwing shit on walls and hoping it sticks.

Let's be clear, I think Grier has to prove himself, but I'm not buying THIS bullshit.

P.S. - I'm on leave and I'm drunk.
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12-03-2019, 11:50 PM,
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Enjoy leave brother!!
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12-03-2019, 11:51 PM,
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What you be drinking, dhouse?
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12-03-2019, 11:58 PM,
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Im on the wine trying to rewatch the irishman bc i was time traveling last weekend when i watched it
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12-03-2019, 11:59 PM,
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(12-03-2019, 11:51 PM)fetznjtown Wrote:  What you be drinking, dhouse?

Tonight I'm a simple American, Jack Daniels straight up.

I'm a true functional alcoholic though (like every military man), so if you ever want to talk booze hit me up.
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12-04-2019, 12:00 AM,
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(12-03-2019, 11:50 PM)Litefghtr Wrote:  Enjoy leave brother!!

43 days prior to Korea for a year. I have to keep working out though, can't slack off completely. Especially with this new ACFT.
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12-04-2019, 12:02 AM,
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I heard the new pt test is no joke! Where in korea? I did a year in camp casey
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12-04-2019, 12:06 AM,
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(12-03-2019, 11:59 PM)dhouse82 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019, 11:51 PM)fetznjtown Wrote:  What you be drinking, dhouse?

Tonight I'm a simple American, Jack Daniels straight up.

I'm a true functional alcoholic though (like every military man), so if you ever want to talk booze hit me up.

Lol sounds good.

I work with a lot of stressed military vets, so I definitely understand the whole “functional alcoholic” thing lol
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12-04-2019, 12:07 AM,
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Hell half the vets would be considered binge drinkers and alcoholics compared to civie standards
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12-04-2019, 12:09 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-04-2019, 12:11 AM by dhouse82.)
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(12-04-2019, 12:06 AM)fetznjtown Wrote:  
(12-03-2019, 11:59 PM)dhouse82 Wrote:  Tonight I'm a simple American, Jack Daniels straight up.

I'm a true functional alcoholic though (like every military man), so if you ever want to talk booze hit me up.

Lol sounds good.

I work with a lot of stressed military vets, so I definitely understand the whole “functional alcoholic” thing lol

I'm not trying to downplay my brothers and sisters, but if I had a nickle for every "stressed vet" act out there I wouldn't need 20.

Let me be clear. I hate the fakers who claim this status while living on a rear D fob with a Chilis and Burger King "aka ME!" and pretend to be Navy Seals.
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12-04-2019, 12:10 AM,
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(12-04-2019, 12:07 AM)Litefghtr Wrote:  Hell half the vets would be considered binge drinkers and alcoholics compared to civie standards

How many times each month have you consumed six or more drinks...

"no comment"
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12-04-2019, 12:14 AM,
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I still have to answer the how many times a week question at the VA. Its stupid how bad i lie
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12-04-2019, 12:24 AM,
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(12-03-2019, 11:59 PM)dhouse82 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019, 11:51 PM)fetznjtown Wrote:  What you be drinking, dhouse?

Tonight I'm a simple American, Jack Daniels straight up.

I'm a true functional alcoholic though (like every military man), so if you ever want to talk booze hit me up.

I never drink dark liquor cause it made me crazy when I was in my late teens but here lately I’ve been drinking bourbon, Blantons is my choice as of late.
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12-04-2019, 12:26 AM,
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(12-04-2019, 12:14 AM)Litefghtr Wrote:  I still have to answer the how many times a week question at the VA. Its stupid how bad i lie

Considering how many vets work at the VA it's comical that this still ask this question as is.
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12-04-2019, 12:26 AM,
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(12-03-2019, 11:58 PM)Litefghtr Wrote:  Im on the wine trying to rewatch the irishman bc i was time traveling last weekend when i watched it

Meh, I wasn’t that impressed, saw it the night it hit Netflix...it was ok
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